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Emily Thorn's avatar

Hey Wes, appreciate the candor on EVs and the Rivian in particular. I drive an R1S - traded in my Tacoma, which I had driven versions of for over 20 years, a few years back. I also live in a very rural spot Western Colorado, near (but not in) Telluride, where high clearance and 4WD are not optional. Anyway, just wanted to add input that the Rivian seems to be built for this sort of life - dirt roads, rugged terrain, snow and ice packed conditions all winter, camping in the desert or mountains, etc. I am also lucky to have Rivian and high speed chargers strategically located across Western CO and Eastern UT. It has outperformed my last Tacoma (2019) in every aspect, including the functionality going over Ophir Pass multiple times a year to see my family on the other side. Yeah, it's absurdly big and it looks like a cartoon, for sure. And yeah, it's become a sort of uniform car for the environmentally conscious billionaires of T-ride (I am not in that class) and Denverites who think they live in the "mountains". And yeah, I paid $100K for it as a business tax write-off, which makes me blush with embarrassment and feel awkward in my middle class habitat. But it gets the job done, very well, and maybe even superiorly to ICE trucks. Just my input. I know I am an outlier, and that Rivian could not exist without the luxury market, too.

Lloyd Alter's avatar

I also almost got fired from Dotdash-Meredith’s Treehugger (I did a year later) for complaining that an electric pickup truck had a bigger full lifetime carbon footprint than a little gas powered car, but you have to look at the embodied/ upfront carbon emissions from making these things. They are useful in some places but not in cities. But nobody wants to hear these things or do the math.

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